Beyond the Ban: Taking Action Against Conversion Practices After Bill C-4
2022, Equity + Justice, Health
In January 2022, became law, making it a crime to perpetrate so-called 鈥conversion therapy鈥 practices. While this legislation sends an unequivocal message denouncing these traumatic practices, there is much more work to be done to fully eradicate conversion practices from Canadian institutions鈥攊ncluding publicly funded healthcare.
This panel discussion featured law and bioethics scholar Florence Ashley (they/them)鈥攁uthor of Banning Transgender Conversion Practices: A Legal and Policy Analysis (UBC Press, 2022)鈥攁nd Jules Sherred (he/him), writer, disability and trans rights activist, and conversion therapy survivor. Florence and Jules discussed shortcomings of the recent Canadian conversion therapy ban, the insidious nature of conversion practices within the public healthcare system, and relationships between institutional forms of oppression and conversion practices鈥攚ith a particular focus on equity and justice for trans people.
Attendees came away from this event with a deeper understanding of trans conversion practices and an invitation to commit to social justice actions that can improve conditions for trans people throughout Canadian institutions and social environments. The session was moderated by SFU Assistant Professor Travis Salway (he/him) and hosted on unceded lands of the x史m蓹胃k史蓹y虛蓹m (Musqueam), S岣祑x瘫w煤7mesh 脷xwumixw (Squamish) and s蓹l虛ilw虛蓹ta蕯涩 (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.
In-person
Room 320
580 West Hastings Street
Vancouver, B.C.
Florence Ashley (they/them)
Florence Ashley (they/them) is a transfeminine jurist and bioethicist currently completing a doctorate at the University of Toronto. Florence frequently contributes to public discussions around trans issues and served as the first openly transfeminine clerk at the Supreme Court of Canada. They are widely published in law and healthcare and are the author of Banning Transgender Conversion Practices: A Legal and Policy Analysis (UBC Press, 2022).
Jules Sherred (he/him)
Jules Sherred (he/him) is a photographer, author, journalist, and outspoken advocate for disability and trans rights. He has consulted on policy and legislation at multiple levels of government in regards to trans issues, has with conversion practices, and specifically advocated for improvements to legislative bans in order to encompass practices targeting trans people and identities. Jules鈥檚 cookbook Crip Up the Kitchen: Realistic Tips, Tricks, and Recipes for the Disabled Kitchen is due to be published by TouchWood Edition in Spring 2023.
By Victoria Barclay, MA Student, UBC Department of Sociology
At Beyond the Ban, Florence Ashley and Jules Sherred sat down with Travis Salway, assistant professor in SFU鈥檚 Faculty of Health Sciences, to discuss the continued harmful impact of conversion practices on trans people, despite these practices being recently banned by the Canadian government. Salway began the event by highlighting the misalignment between the federal government鈥檚 definition of conversion practices and how these practices materialize. To open the conversation he read an excerpt from Ashley鈥檚 newest book Banning Transgender Conversion Practices: A Legal and Policy Analysis (UBC Press, 2022, p. 23):
It may be more helpful to understand conversion practices not as an attempt to convert gender identity or sexual orientation but, rather, to convert them into gender-normative subjects. Because they cast gender creativity as undesirable, trans conversion practices seek to promote identification with one鈥檚 sex assigned at birth and to discourage behaviours that are associated with a different sex assigned at birth.
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What are conversion practices?
Ashley explained that conversion practices is a 鈥渇uzzy鈥 term because these practices exist on a spectrum, but at their root, conversion practices are a systemic attempt 鈥渢o prevent people from being queer or trans.鈥
Sherred spoke about how conversion practices exist within the home. At a young age Sherred showed gender nonconformity, and in a 鈥渃ute鈥 way was labelled a tomboy鈥 until it was not so cute. His parents punished him by forcing him to wear pink and participate in femininity. Therapists enable these behaviours from parents by 鈥渃oaching鈥 them to have their child conform to gender norms, which is devastating for the child, as Ashley explained.
Laws banning conversion practices must be specific
Ashley argued that the federal ban on conversion practices requires more specificity to be effective. They questioned how conversion practices are conceptualized and emphasized the need for 鈥渋nstitutional scaffolding鈥 to discourage harmful practices. Sherred added that mechanisms must not incorporate law enforcement because this would be unsafe for trans folk. He also asserted that governments must take responsibility for funding conversion practices.
Thinking critically about consent to conversion
The issue of "consent" raises further areas of concern when it comes to justifying conversion practices. Sherred shared that he consented to conversion therapy as a child because he 鈥渄idn鈥檛 want to hate himself鈥 Society has convinced us we hate ourselves, but it鈥檚 society that makes us hate ourselves.鈥 As Ashley noted, Canada does not lawfully allow people to consent to harm, and consent is 鈥渘ot the metric鈥 of what is ethical and not. Further, people are not told they are being subjected to conversion therapy, nor do professionals outline the risks, the research, and the widely contested perspectives on these practices, so Ashley interrogates the validity of consent under these circumstances. Children are also not of age to consent鈥攑arents consent on their behalf, which calls for further scrutiny from an ethical standpoint.
What should Canada do to ensure a ban on conversion practices?
Ashley pointed to Australia, which uses laws shaped by survivors, as a nation that has made greater strides than others, though they too are not perfect. They explained that the US approaches to banning conversion therapy are 鈥渆xtremely conservative and risk-averse鈥 because of limitations imposed by their constitution. Canada does not face the same constitutional challenges as the US, so Ashley advises against looking to the US as an example.
Ashley and Sherred iterated that laws require a mechanism for enforcement. Sherred believes the BC Human Rights Tribunal should be responsible for enforcement as they have 鈥渟et precedence鈥 that other Canadian human rights courts can take note of when it comes to trans rights. Salway suggested that it would need more funding to do so.
An audience member asked whether gender identity training in schools would be a positive step forward. If trans people are administrating and conducting the training, then Sherred believes it is a good idea. Ashley believes education is important but highlights that education also needs 鈥渁ccountability and enforceability structures.鈥 They noted that education is not particularly useful without action. Sherred continued to explain that education is required in many ways, including for teachers and for judges who impact the lives of trans people. A multi-prong approach that disallows doctors from denying life-saving medical procedures and provides spaces鈥攖hat are not foster care鈥 for trans youth facing abuse is needed, Sherred said.
Additional resources
To close the event, Ashley and Sherred named some organizations that people can look into and support if they would like to know more about trans rights and fight against conversion practices.
- , 2022, F Ashley.
- 鈥鈥, J Sherred.
- 鈥溾, 2022, T Salway & F Ashley (CMAJ).
- "What is so-called 鈥渃onversion therapy鈥 and how can we stop it?, T Salway (Innovations in Research)
Asked about advocacy groups fighting against conversion therapy that people can support, Jules and Florence recommended
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